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Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 82	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:01:00 - [1] - Quote Karadion wrote: "Goons this, goons that, goons everything, goons are ruining my "Walking in Station" experience! Give me my incarna, wah wah wah." Go play Second Life or in traffic. At least the CSM had some influence in getting CCP to dump their stupid Vampire MMO and scale down Dust that both of would have never worked. No you didn't. You had nothing to do with that. The player base did when the protested and unsubed. So you can STFU. The CSM is currently garbage, and for CCP to begin to recognize that fills me with tickles and giggles. Quote: I'm starting to get feedback from players that they worry the CSM is too pre-occupied by a certain playstyle ^^^ This... & even more... because he dare not even address the CSM corruption and hypocrisy.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 82	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:04:00 - [2] - Quote Mr LaForge wrote: To the OP. STOP WHINING ABOUT NOTHING. This CSM got CCP back on the right track in regards to EVE. No they didn't. CCP as a company went into a panic when they saw their revenue stream drop into the toilet. The CSM did precisely jack. The player base sent the message.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 82	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:06:00 - [3] - Quote Karadion wrote: Eternum Praetorian wrote: Karadion wrote: "Goons this, goons that, goons everything, goons are ruining my "Walking in Station" experience! Give me my incarna, wah wah wah." Go play Second Life or in traffic. At least the CSM had some influence in getting CCP to dump their stupid Vampire MMO and scale down Dust that both of would have never worked. No you didn't. You had nothing to do with that. The player base did when the protested and unsubed. So you can STFU. The CSM is currently garbage, and for CCP to begin to recognize that fills me with tickles and giggles. And who was the driver behind that? Oh god I can't wait to hear your pubbie answer. The driver behind what? CSM corruption? CCP's flawed voting system that allows multiple account holders to Vote for members of their own large alliances.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 84	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:07:00 - [4] - Quote Karadion wrote: Eternum Praetorian wrote: Mr LaForge wrote: To the OP. STOP WHINING ABOUT NOTHING. This CSM got CCP back on the right track in regards to EVE. No they didn't. CCP as a company went into a panic when they saw their revenue stream drop into the toilet. The CSM did precisely jack. The player base sent the message. And you've yet to tell us what the cause of this was. Hint: It contains the word 'minutes'. No. You're completely full of ****.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 84	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:10:00 - [5] - Quote Karadion wrote: Kardion Farts in public.....You know what we call answers like this people? A strawman attack. What is a strawman attack? It's a simple tactic to distract you from the primary focus. You're right... That is exactly what you are doing right now.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 84	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:14:00 - [6] - Quote Karadion wrote: Scarlett Anstian wrote: Karadion you are just a bleating sheep of Goonswarm, please remove yourself from this thread. The CSM have no power when it comes to financial decisions at CCP. Which the dropping of WoD and refocusing on EVE was. The CSM has done good things in helping them readdress the current problems in the game, but you are fooling yourselves if you believe they are behind CCP cutting staff etc. That all points towards cash flow problems. Yes..
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 84	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:21:00 - [7] - Quote Bai bai null sec only run CSM seats... Cry moar... It wont save your space... I mean... Seat.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 84	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:29:00 - [8] - Quote Karadion wrote: Eternum Praetorian wrote: Bai bai null sec only run CSM seats... Cry moar... It wont save your space... I mean... Seat. Okay please take our space away from us. Oh by the way where do you live? Oh you're a pubbie trainie experiencing this wonderful brilliant game. Maybe you should be more involved in learning this game and less involved on this forum. But I can't stop you because you want to RAGE RAGE RAGE AGAINST THE..... CSM? Are not goons supposed to be pro new guy? Are you not a recruitment officer? Why are you shitting on "pubbie's" in ever other post? They provide a great deal of money into CCP revenue stream above all else. So they need to be represented by the CSM don't you agree?
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 84	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:33:00 - [9] - Quote Maybe everyone should focus on the point and hand and avoid an obvious derailing? So much of CCP's ISK comes from empire and "pubbie's" If CCP wants to be successful they will have to cater to these people as well. Nuff said, and Hilmar seems to have realized that. So maybe he is about to fire some of the CSM too, and I think this is him softening the "blow" before he brings down the Guillotine.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 84	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:38:00 - [10] - Quote seany1212 wrote: Make high sec wars virtually invalid. That comes from CCP's fear of losing subs and wanting better new player retention. It was specific to the EVE university and as far as I know the CSM's had nothing to do with that either.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 84	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:53:00 - [11] - Quote TBH this is turning into an Anti-goon speech. This should have nothing to do with the Goons, this is about CCP and how they run business. Goons are good for the game in all reality, bias CSM is not.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 84	Posted - 2011.10.21 13:03:00 - [12] - Quote I have said this before, I want my interests and the interests of my friends addressed. I want representatives who recognize my play style and the playing style of people like me. The current CSM, and most of the CSM's before that, are not giving me that "feeling". They are elected representatives that should be representing all of EVE online, from mining in empire to null sec. Their primary concern should be game balancing in every aspect of the game... If they can't do they there is no point to have them there. At the very least we could use an Empire CSM, Low Sec CSM and Null Sec CSM (or something). What we have now can only steer CCP in the wrong direction, and I believe has. Purposefully or not, It doesn't really matter, because a null sec only CSM cannot fulfill the above requirements. These are important requirements. No ones "idea" of how the game should be played should take precedence over anyone else's. CSM's must be fair, neutral and courteous in order to fulfill their intended roll. Else they are useless to everyone.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 85	Posted - 2011.10.21 13:09:00 - [13] - Quote Karadion wrote: Eternum Praetorian wrote: I have said this before, I want my interests and the interests of my friends addressed. I want representatives who recognize my play style and the playing style of people like me. The current CSM, and most of the CSM's before that, are not giving me that "feeling". They are elected representatives that should be representing all of EVE online, from mining in empire to null sec. Their primary concern should be game balancing in every aspect of the game... If they can't do that then there is no point in having them. At the very least we could use an Empire CSM, Low Sec CSM and Null Sec CSM (or something). What we have now can only steer CCP in the wrong direction, and I believe has. Purposefully or not, It doesn't really matter, because a null sec only CSM cannot fulfill the above requirements. These are important requirements. No ones "idea" of how the game should be played should take precedence over anyone else's. CSM's must be fair, neutral and courteous in order to fulfill their intended roll. Else they are useless to everyone. They don't give you that warm feeling inside because they're not fighting to buff your mission bots / isk return. You got Trebor and that other person what's his name? Whatever. The current CSM got voted because they presented their platforms they believe in and also gained the favor of their own alliances because they share similar feelings. PS: Use enter's less. Makes you look like you are skilled in grammar. You obviously do not know what my play style is. & are not taking the time to consider it, or how it may be just as valid as yours. Even more then that the post made by Don Solette above is relevant to CCP's interests, and should thus be represented by the CSM's as well, without bias.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 85	Posted - 2011.10.21 13:17:00 - [14] - Quote Guy Grand wrote: [quote=Eternum Praetorian]I have said this before, I want my interests and the interests of my friends addressed. This makes you different then the current CSM how? They are elected to represent people like me. I am not elected to represent myself am I? Quote: CSM's must be fair, neutral and courteous in order to fulfill their intended roll. Else they are useless to everyone. Are you new to the world as well as this game? Are you new to a real-life working business model for a Video game?
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 85	Posted - 2011.10.21 13:23:00 - [15] - Quote Guy Grand wrote: Eternum Praetorian wrote: Guy Grand wrote: [quote=Eternum Praetorian]I have said this before, I want my interests and the interests of my friends addressed. This makes you different then the current CSM how? They are elected to represent people like me. I am not elected to represent myself am I? Your answer completely sidesteps my point. You fail completely to address the others. Try again. No, it does it just fine. I, like 99% of the player base, are meant to be represented by our elected representatives, the CSM. That is why they exist, and we should not have to "fly to Iceland" to have our interests communicated.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 105	Posted - 2011.10.30 15:09:00 - [16] - Quote They won't be removed "now" Lets just wait until the end of the year to see what Himlar has in mind for them. Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences

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